Minnesota Senate Recount Day 1 (Updated)

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(Update: see below)

Here's what happened on the first day of the Minnesota Senate race recount. Al Franken's lawsuit to gain access to rejected absentee ballots was granted. There was another tempest in a teacup, a dust-up at the Ramsey County recount caused by a Republican activist. Most importantly, the recount began.

MN-SEN race recount
Updated every evening at 8pm
Norm Coleman 195638 43.25%
Al Franken 180923 39.99%
Other 75585 16.71%
Challenged Franken ballots 115 0.03%
Challenged Coleman ballots 106 0.02%

This is about 15.68% of votes counted out of 2,885,502 votes cast on November 4th

If we can stay at a pace of 15% per day, we're done in early December. However, the bigger counties of Hennepin and Ramsey will be recounting for a long time and the rural counties will finish sooner. Almost half the state lives in these two Twin Cities counties. Once the rural counties are done, our rate will slow down.

Update

Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight.com declares that recounting cut Norm's lead of 215 down to 172.

According to data just released by the Minnesota Secretary of State, Al Franken has gained a net of 43 votes on the first day of that state's recount process. Norm Coleman had a lead of 215 voters over Franken in Minnesota's certified, pre-recount tally; that margin is now 172 votes.

Minnesota reports that it has thus far re-counted 15.49 percent of its ballots. If the first day's results are indicative of the pace that the candidates will maintain throughout the recount process, Franken would gain a net of 278 votes over Colmean, giving him a narrow victory. For any number of reasons, however, the results reported thus far may not be indicative of future trends.
(FiveThirtyEight.com)

The importance of Ramsey County Judge Dale B. Lindman's ruling is that this may uncover many uncounted Franken votes. Ramsey County knows Norm and voted overwhelmingly for Al. We don't yet know how many ballots were rejected in Ramsey County nor do we know if the Franken campaign will try to see Hennepin and St. Louis counties' rejected absentee ballots.

As to the ruling's implications for Franken's case before the State Canvassing Board, Lindman wrote: "With each passing hour, the Franken Campaign is irreparably harmed in its efforts to ensure that each valid vote is properly counted and to prepare for the procedures that will decide this election."

Franken recount lawyer Marc Elias said in a post-decision briefing that Lindman's opinion "is helpful to us" in relation to the Canvassing Board.

For his part, Coleman attorney Fritz Knaak wasn’t reeling from the decision. He said Wednesday afternoon that he and the Coleman campaign are focused on the recount and reported it was going “exceptionally well.”

Knaak called the Data Practices case and Lindman ruling a “side issue” and “not of any particular relevance to the count itself.”

But, clearly Elias will use Lindman’s opinion to urge the State Canvassing Board to allow rejected absentee ballots to be part of the count. That would run counter to an opinion offered earlier this week by the Minnesota attorney general’s office, but Lindman’s words – “irreparable harm” -- are sure to be heard over and over again.
(MinnPost)

Check out the ruling here.

At a Ramsey County recount location, a Republican activist, Bob Murray, was challenging far too many ballots for County Elections Director Joe Mansky's liking. On the AM950's Mark Heaney Radio Show, Mike McIntee of The Uptake said that Mansky told the Murray to quit making frivolous challenges and when the activist objected was told (and I'm paraphrasing) "this isn't a campaign, you can't do that and if you've got a problem with it, sue me."

One dustup came when Coleman observer Bob Murray questioned Ramsey County elections manager Joe Mansky on all the people jamming in the room as well as how ballot stacks were being counted. When Murray challenged a handful of ballots in which voters appeared to mark Franken clearly, Mansky said they were frivolous challenges, something state law prohibits.

“If you want to deal with it, take me to court,” Mansky said.
(Star Tribune)

Grace Kelly, who was there all day, said that Murray got louder and louder each time he didn't get his way. Mansky stayed calm the entire time. McIntee commented that Murray later apologized. I"ll post the video from the Uptake once they post it. Noah Kunin had this comment on the Strib's article

The quote from Mansky is slightly inaccurate as posted here. Consultation of video from the incident produces the following exact quote:

MANSKY: If you want to deal with them, you can take my determination to court.
Slightly more politic, I’d say…

Noah Kunin
Senior Political Correspondent
http://www.theuptake.org

Update

Here's Grace Kelly's video, produced by Noah Kunin:

Contested Ballots...

What will happen when it comes down to contested ballots? Is that where the games are being played... contestable ballots?

I say voter intent! Voter intent!

Canvassing Board...

The Canvassing Board will review all contested ballots after all counties have finished recounting. They meet in mid-December.

Maybe the Senate will name a Senator

If it comes down to contested ballots, maybe the Senate should step in and name a fellow.

It is down to 157 votes

It is down to 157 votes right now. I found this on a messageboard. Interesting if true:

"My brother's boss is buddies with Republican pollster Frank Luntz. Frank talks regularly to Tim Pawlenty, who shared the following beliefs:
1) The recount will be fair.
2) Al Franken will win."

Franken by over 500

Just want to make sure that you all know. Also, how come so many of you voted absentee? After seeing the cluster involved with absentee votes I can't picture ever voting that way.

Anyone else...?

Anyone else want to weigh in on final vote margin? Silly prizes to be awarded later...

Absentee the wrong way to go

I agree Tom a, absentee ballots are proving extremely risky. If you vote in person and your ballot is rejected (machine rejection) you can quickly fix the matter. If you vote absentee, there's a ton of things that can go wrong, including your clerk forgetting to write something down (etc.) Too Risky!

Unless you really can't be there to vote...

Our soldiers in action can't be there to vote in person and (I think I heard) some of their ballots are rejected due to being held up in the mail, etc... now THAT isn't right. There should be a better way for our soldiers in action to vote...

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